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Kennedy ([personal profile] brat_inslayage) wrote in [community profile] fhplotterywheel2011-12-21 05:36 am
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Brainstorming Post!

Picture me flailing in futile and exaggeratedly comic rage if it makes this whole comment redesign thing just an infinitesimal amount better.

You know how this works, right? Make with the storming of the braininess.

[[just wait for the OH GOD HOW IS THIS EVEN GOING TO WORK I DON'T KNOW AND I WON'T BE ABLE TO TELL FROM MY INBOX ocd, such as it is, is there. *weeps* oh, hell. get your redesign rage on in the ooc sorta-thread. DO IT.]]

[identity profile] whateverknight.livejournal.com 2011-12-21 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
o.O


I'm a programmer by trade, and I do a lot of programming of web pages. And I'd just like to say that the fact that the site works (more or less) in Chrome, but not Firefox, is a big indicator of HALF-ASSING the testing process.

Also, there is a LOT of Javascript running behind the scenes, now. The page isn't ready when your browser says it's done loading -- it still needs to go through and use script to edit lots of the stuff it's laid out on the page. And if you even breathe funny while it's doing that, something gets screwed up and the page doesn't work. When you build something that touchy, you need to test the crap out of it, and I don't think they did. Or they knew it was buggy and released it anyway.

I actually like the new design, and think it's pretty (and I know that puts me in the minority)... but FUCK, LJ, learn to QA your work!
angelo_wings: ([art] relaxing with moogle)

[personal profile] angelo_wings 2011-12-21 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
So they've streamlined it by taking out a lot of things people use -- I liked clicking on the "(no subject)" in order to go to a specific spot in a long comment thread, or whatever placeholder they want to use there -- and are now using Javascript instead of HTML, which means it's going to be buggier and hiccup more. That's the gist of it?

As a programmer, then, what are the odds of this being something they'll roll back, vs. this is how it is, this is how it's staying, we should get used to it? I mean, how tied are they to this, going forward? How much of a paradigm shift is this, if it's all Javascript etc?

[identity profile] whateverknight.livejournal.com 2011-12-21 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, when you hover over a comment, you get a link that says "link" that you can use to go to that specific spot. And you get expand/collapse links, but sometimes they don't work, even in Chrome.

As far as this being something they'd roll back... I don't think they will. There's a whole lot of new code, and they probably spent a very, very long time making it all work. I think we're probably in for a rough ride while they use us all as unwilling alpha-testers.

The last time they added all sorts of pretty new features, they were add-ons and the page would still work if the scripts broke. This time, it's all integrated and stuff.

[identity profile] ancientbschamp.livejournal.com 2011-12-21 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh god, the Javascript explains SO MUCH about why Firefox keeps freezing on me, then; NoScript and my other security add-ons have to be going completely batshit. LOVELY.

[identity profile] whateverknight.livejournal.com 2011-12-21 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Plus, every time you load the page, there are scripts that notify FIVE different site statistics trackers.
wwiii: (Humph.)

[personal profile] wwiii 2011-12-21 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
... Wow. That makes me feel so much not better about any of this.
angelo_wings: (glare side grr)

[personal profile] angelo_wings 2011-12-21 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
........... I fucking hate you, LJ.

I have said it before. I have never really meant it before.

I mean it now.
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[personal profile] furnaceface 2011-12-21 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
In other news, according to their official Twitter feed, Dreamwidth is working on getting a community import feature implemented, and they're aiming to have it out today, if at all possible.

Which isn't me necessarily being all ABANDON SHIP, though I admit that all 3-4-ish of the active journals I'm hoping to have in use next semester are backed up there now, but it's... you know. Potentially a useful thingie, if the admins are flailing about for more options to grab at. There is a journal host out there that is doing their level best to try to accommodate panicking fandom communities, and they've always been pretty good to roleplayers in general.
Edited 2011-12-21 20:49 (UTC)
wasthecuteone: (who decided boots don't need toes?)

[personal profile] wasthecuteone 2011-12-21 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
+1-ing this

You guys, I can't imagine staying here and continuing to give LJ my money right now. I can't. I'm not about to quit the game over it or anything, but I'll sure as hell figure out how to RP with fifteen icons per character if I have to.
furnaceface: (Lopsided Look)

[personal profile] furnaceface 2011-12-21 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. Back in the olden times, I figured out how to RP with six. Going down from 150+ to 15 is going to suck, but it's workable.