Brainstorming Post!

[brat_inslayage]

Picture me flailing in futile and exaggeratedly comic rage if it makes this whole comment redesign thing just an infinitesimal amount better.

You know how this works, right? Make with the storming of the braininess.

[[just wait for the OH GOD HOW IS THIS EVEN GOING TO WORK I DON'T KNOW AND I WON'T BE ABLE TO TELL FROM MY INBOX ocd, such as it is, is there. *weeps* oh, hell. get your redesign rage on in the ooc sorta-thread. DO IT.]]

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[brat_inslayage]

OOC

There were going to be giant graphics here, but given how slowly the new comment pages seem to be loading I decided not to use them.

THIS RUINED MY MONTHLONG PLAN FOR MY OCD THREADS. :( (Also I can't remember to select icons with this stupid thing.)

[annieadderall.livejournal.com]

I HATE THIS REDESIGN SO MUCH. SO, SO MUCH. AT LEAST GIVE US BACK OUR SUBJECT LINES.

OH GOD AND THE ICON SELECTION SUCKS SO HARD.

[angelo_wings]

SO HARD. SO HARD.

I liked the previous browse window. The one you can still see on Chrome. This one? NO.

Getting rid of my text drop-down? NO.

And the several-seconds lag of everything-ever? SO MUCH NO. A WORLD OF NO.

[nookiepowered]

I've switched plotterywheel over to a style that actually shows subject headings -- AND THE DROP-DOWN ICON LIST -- if you... want to delete all the comments and do the OCD over.

[ancientbschamp.livejournal.com]

Ohgod yeah, not bothering this time, I think. :/ This is basically how I feel about LJ right now.

[angelo_wings]

Is it you that just changed to whatever the current style is, like, five minutes ago? If so, what is it?

[nookiepowered]

Yep, that's me! I just finished changing over all the FH comms. I'll make a post in OOC about it as soon as I get everything together, but here's the quick and dirty version:

* You have to have a plus or paid account to make it work
* Minimalism style
* Georgia theme
* 2 column, sidebar on left (there is no sidebar, but you have to choose this layout to make the design work)

Then Customize, Custom CSS, and in the Custom Stylesheet box, paste:

body { font-size:10px; } .sidebar { display:none; } small {font-size:11px !important;} big {font-size:110%;} .content-inner { margin-left:20px !important; overflow:visible; } .content .entry { width:80% overflow:visible; font-family:Verdana, Georgia, serif; } .username {max-width:120px;} h3 { margin-top:0px !important; } .entrymenu a {padding-top:20px !important; }

That's from stoppedhiding's design with tweaks for full-width by articletwelve, here.

(There's a version with a sidebar there too, but that reduces the space for comments.)

The only thing it doesn't quite fix is that screened comments aren't grayed-out (if it's your journal and you can see the screened comments). You have to look at the eye icon, and if it doesn't have the slash across it, it's screened.

The thing it utterly screws up is your journal layout, though, since the style carries over to journal view and friends view, so you lose all your pretty customizations.

[wrongkindofsith]

THE NASTY, BAD DESIGNSES! IT HURTS US PRECIOUS! WE WANTS TO BEAT THEM UP WITH OLD PRINCIPLES OF MULTIMEDIA DESIGN TEXTS!

[ancientbschamp.livejournal.com]

Somehow, picturing Cara doing that makes me feel better.

[wrongkindofsith]

Cara hitting things always makes people feel better...unless they're the ones being hit.

[izzyalienqueen.livejournal.com]

Oh wow! At least I can comment using this style on Firefox. I can't do it anywhere else.

[willbedone.livejournal.com]

Awww, it's a cute plan for OCD threads!

But yeah, wow the new format suuuuuuuuuuuucks.

[chief-cheerio.livejournal.com]

This is the WORST CHRISTMAS PRESENT EVER, LJ.

[unburnt-queen.livejournal.com]

OKAY.

OKAY.

WHAT IN THE EVERLOVING HELL HAS HAPPENED TO LJ? I DID NOT APPROVE THIS, AND MY VACATION JUST STARTED SO I CAN ACTUALLY PLAY AND I HATE THIS.

LJ, YOU RUINED CHRISTMAS. SHAME ON YOU. YOU GET MY SADDEST ICON.

Re: OOC

[nothornlessrose.livejournal.com]

I love that image you linked to!

[ancientbschamp.livejournal.com]

I HAVE BEEN PLANNING THOSE MEME PICTURES FOR WEEKS. D: AND THEN THE SLOW SITE LOADING MADE ME ALL "WELL MAYBE I SHOULDN'T DO IT BECAUSE WHAT GOOD IS IT WITHOUT SUBJECT LINES ANYWAY."

[nothornlessrose.livejournal.com]

BUT THEY WERE WONDERFUL IDEAS AND YOU DESERVE MAD COMPLIMENTS FOR IT!

[locointhecoco]

LJ HAS MADE PINKIE PIE CRY.

Dude, I knew this was coming, but I kinda thought it would TAKE awhile. . . . Damn you, LJ. Why? WHY?

[angelo_wings]

WHAT IS THIS FUCKING SHIT AND HOW DO I MAKE IT GO AWAY

THERE HAS TO BE A FIREFOX SCRIPT OR A PLUG-IN OR SOMEONE AT LJ THAT I CAN STAB IN THE FACE

WHAT

[regretiz4suckas.livejournal.com]

I'm quoting my favorite of the poetically translated Russian comments here, because it's good to know they're not happy either, despite certain claims to the contrary:

In vain the "theme" at the comments removed.
It is in vain.
Whom it prevented?
It was fun and convenient.
Among other things, a lot of discussion it was possible to navigate among the branches of comments on topics not deploying all the branches.
Not to mention many other things. .. huge request: Shove a new design of your ass please go back the "theme" in the comments.

[furnaceface]

That's... actually reassuring. Since Russia is apparently the only country that's worth giving a heads-up to about this in the first place.

Not that I think it'll change anything, but if the Russians get ticked and take their business elsewhere, that'll sure show... somebody.

[nookiepowered]

I think "shove a new design of your ass" is very poetic.

[whateverknight.livejournal.com]

o.O


I'm a programmer by trade, and I do a lot of programming of web pages. And I'd just like to say that the fact that the site works (more or less) in Chrome, but not Firefox, is a big indicator of HALF-ASSING the testing process.

Also, there is a LOT of Javascript running behind the scenes, now. The page isn't ready when your browser says it's done loading -- it still needs to go through and use script to edit lots of the stuff it's laid out on the page. And if you even breathe funny while it's doing that, something gets screwed up and the page doesn't work. When you build something that touchy, you need to test the crap out of it, and I don't think they did. Or they knew it was buggy and released it anyway.

I actually like the new design, and think it's pretty (and I know that puts me in the minority)... but FUCK, LJ, learn to QA your work!

[angelo_wings]

So they've streamlined it by taking out a lot of things people use -- I liked clicking on the "(no subject)" in order to go to a specific spot in a long comment thread, or whatever placeholder they want to use there -- and are now using Javascript instead of HTML, which means it's going to be buggier and hiccup more. That's the gist of it?

As a programmer, then, what are the odds of this being something they'll roll back, vs. this is how it is, this is how it's staying, we should get used to it? I mean, how tied are they to this, going forward? How much of a paradigm shift is this, if it's all Javascript etc?

[ancientbschamp.livejournal.com]

Oh god, the Javascript explains SO MUCH about why Firefox keeps freezing on me, then; NoScript and my other security add-ons have to be going completely batshit. LOVELY.